{"id":8158,"date":"2025-06-26T08:33:40","date_gmt":"2025-06-26T06:33:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/?p=8158"},"modified":"2025-07-16T14:26:27","modified_gmt":"2025-07-16T12:26:27","slug":"kunst-gibt-keine-antwort","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/en\/stories\/art-gives-no-answer","title":{"rendered":"Art gives no answer"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"lazyblock-zweifarbige-uberschrift-1AUDWy wp-block-lazyblock-zweifarbige-uberschrift\"><div class=\"container\">\n  <h2 class=\"duo-heading alignleft\">\n  Art gives \n  <br>\n  <span class=\"after-color\">No answer<\/span>\n<\/h2>\n<div style=\"clear:both;\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<p><span class=\"material-symbols-rounded sicon contact-icon\">pin_drop<\/span><strong>CULTURAL CENTRE EMAILWERK<\/strong>Verena and Leo Fellinger, Anton-Windhager-Stra\u00dfe 7, 5201 Seekirchen am Wallersee<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"740\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-image-8160 size-large\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-Leo-Verena-Fellinger_bea-1024x740.jpg\" style=\"object-position:52% 37%\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" data-object-position=\"52% 37%\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-Leo-Verena-Fellinger_bea-1024x740.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-Leo-Verena-Fellinger_bea-300x217.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-Leo-Verena-Fellinger_bea-768x555.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-Leo-Verena-Fellinger_bea-1536x1110.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-Leo-Verena-Fellinger_bea-2048x1480.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-Leo-Verena-Fellinger_bea-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-Leo-Verena-Fellinger_bea-350x253.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-background-dim-0 has-background-dim\"><\/span><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-cover-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-large-font-size\"><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover is-light\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"773\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-image-8161 size-large\" alt=\"\u00a9Kulturhaus Emailwerk\" src=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/02-Kulturhaus-Emailwerk-1024x773.jpg\" style=\"object-position:52% 36%\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" data-object-position=\"52% 36%\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/02-Kulturhaus-Emailwerk-1024x773.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/02-Kulturhaus-Emailwerk-300x227.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/02-Kulturhaus-Emailwerk-768x580.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/02-Kulturhaus-Emailwerk-1536x1160.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/02-Kulturhaus-Emailwerk-2048x1547.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/02-Kulturhaus-Emailwerk-16x12.jpg 16w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/02-Kulturhaus-Emailwerk-350x264.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-background-dim-0 has-background-dim\"><\/span><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-cover-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-large-font-size\"><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-light-green-color has-text-color has-link-color has-large-font-size wp-elements-d79424c342205955d5d722937f1d1e00\"><strong><strong>Art Place Enamelworks Seekirchen<\/strong><\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The most important realisation from 20 years of cultural work in Salzburg's Seenland should be mentioned first: Art does not provide answers, it poses questions, provides stimuli and impulses, a reaction to the world. Verena and Leo Fellinger agree on this. Cultural institutions are social actors. With this in mind, the Fellingers and a group of ambitious art enthusiasts founded the Emailwerk and turned it into an art venue whose significance is undisputed after two decades.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-style-plain is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-large-font-size\"><em><strong>\"20 years of success are the result of the work of many culture enthusiasts.\"<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-dark-grey-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-7c91428830003978298bbfe69968ad98\">~ <strong><em>Verena Fellinger.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Verena Fellinger was Managing Director from 2004 to 2025, Leo Fellinger has been Chairman of the Kunstbox association since 2001. <br>It took a lot of heads and hands. On the initiative of Leo and Verena Fellinger, a handful of culture enthusiasts came together. They wanted to set the tone beyond the northern city limits of Salzburg and enrich the Salzburg Seenland and Seekirchen region with contemporary art and culture.  They finally founded the Kunstbox cultural association in 2001. The former enamelling plant of the Windhager company was rebuilt over a 9-month construction period and the enamelling plant was opened in May 2005.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" src=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/04-Gru\u0308ndungsteam-2004-1024x681.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8170\" style=\"aspect-ratio:3\/2;object-fit:cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/04-Gru\u0308ndungsteam-2004-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/04-Gru\u0308ndungsteam-2004-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/04-Gru\u0308ndungsteam-2004-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/04-Gru\u0308ndungsteam-2004-1536x1021.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/04-Gru\u0308ndungsteam-2004-2048x1362.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/04-Gru\u0308ndungsteam-2004-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/04-Gru\u0308ndungsteam-2004-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/04-Gru\u0308ndungsteam-2004-350x233.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Founding team 2004<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" src=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/06-Bau-2004-2-1024x681.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8171\" style=\"aspect-ratio:3\/2;object-fit:cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/06-Bau-2004-2-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/06-Bau-2004-2-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/06-Bau-2004-2-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/06-Bau-2004-2-1536x1021.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/06-Bau-2004-2-2048x1362.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/06-Bau-2004-2-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/06-Bau-2004-2-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/06-Bau-2004-2-350x233.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Remodelling 2004<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"706\" src=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/05-Bau-2004-1-1024x706.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8172\" style=\"aspect-ratio:3\/2;object-fit:cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/05-Bau-2004-1-1024x706.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/05-Bau-2004-1-300x207.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/05-Bau-2004-1-768x530.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/05-Bau-2004-1-1536x1059.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/05-Bau-2004-1-2048x1412.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/05-Bau-2004-1-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/05-Bau-2004-1-350x241.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Planning 2004 \u00a9Franz Neumayr <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/07-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-1-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8173\" style=\"aspect-ratio:3\/2;object-fit:cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/07-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-1-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/07-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/07-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/07-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-1-1536x1153.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/07-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-1-2048x1537.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/07-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-1-16x12.jpg 16w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/07-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/07-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-1-350x263.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Opening 2005<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-light-green-color has-text-color has-link-color has-large-font-size wp-elements-cb10c880ab19d55d6166e150d4032f70\">Clear the stage - events &amp; workshops<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The team develops new artistic programmes, creates well thought-out concert series on the borderline between jazz, world music, new folk music and singer\/songwriting, and holds controversial discussions on current socially relevant topics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Over the past ten years, around 300,000 guests have attended almost 6,000 events and workshops. The programme is aimed at all generations, with a particular focus on children. A few examples of events: I-can't-sing choir, land art workshops, breakdance workshops, theatre and music workshops, creative children's days, art trips<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"561\" src=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-20Jahre-Sujet-1024x561.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8164\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-20Jahre-Sujet-1024x561.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-20Jahre-Sujet-300x164.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-20Jahre-Sujet-768x421.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-20Jahre-Sujet-1536x841.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-20Jahre-Sujet-2048x1122.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-20Jahre-Sujet-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/03-20Jahre-Sujet-350x192.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-light-green-color has-text-color has-link-color has-large-font-size wp-elements-732084c8ebd381fa2a0623f09f3cb10d\">Heart projects from Verena &amp; Leo<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>We have favourite projects, of course. For Verena, it's the \"Pop &amp; Gospel Choir\", because singing here releases an incredible amount of positive energy. For Leo, it was \"SprachLust\", the exhibition accompanying the feasibility study for a language museum. A highlight of our cultural work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During 20 years, a lot of hoppalas naturally happen. Verena has collected the most original ones and immortalised them in a book of anecdotes, which was published to mark the 20th anniversary.<strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-style-plain is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-large-font-size\"><em><strong>\"Art strengthens our ability to see the world from different perspectives. And it creates moments that touch us, connect us and sometimes even change us.\"<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-dark-grey-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-abcb668a241fe2cca116fb1b85deb3db\">~ <strong><em>Leo Fellinger.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-light-green-color has-text-color has-link-color has-large-font-size wp-elements-5af6d2c3c708b35fe1ebabdb5e10fa26\">Cultural work &amp; sustainability<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The Emailwerk is a sustainable building with an environmentally conscious team, and the Austrian Ecolabel is just one of many proofs of this. For many years, the Emailwerk has also been recognised as an educational establishment, with a focus on music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-stretch is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-column-is-layout-12dd3699 wp-block-column-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-light-green-color\"><strong>Extract from the awards<\/strong><\/mark><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">2011: Salzburg State Prize for Cultural Work<br>2013: Special award for exemplary cultural work <br>           from the Ministry of Culture\/Federal Government<br>2021: Austrian eco-label \"GREEN LOCATION\"<br>2022: Environmental award of the province of Salzburg<br>2023: Decoration of Merit of the Province of Salzburg to Managing Director Verena Fellinger<br>2024: Silver badges of honour from the municipality of Seekirchen to Leopold <br>           and Verena Fellinger<br>All awards&nbsp; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.emailwerk.at\/wir-ueber-uns\/auszeichnungen\/\">https:\/\/www.emailwerk.at\/wir-ueber-uns\/auszeichnungen\/<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/08-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-2-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8167\" style=\"width:547px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/08-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-2-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/08-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-2-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/08-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-2-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/08-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-2-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/08-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-2-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/08-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-2-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/08-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-2-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.salzburger-seenland.at\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/08-Ero\u0308ffnung-2005-2-350x233.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The management team of Melina Fellinger, Nicole Hansel and David Knapp will take over the operational management of the Kulturverein and the Kulturhaus in various functions on 1 June 2025.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"material-symbols-rounded sicon contact-icon\">pin_drop<\/span><strong>Culture House Enamel Works<\/strong><br> Anton-Windhager-Strasse 7<br> 5201 Seekirchen am Wallersee<br> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.emailwerk.at\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">www.emailwerk.at<\/a><br><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The most important realisation from 20 years of cultural work in Salzburg's Seenland should be mentioned first...<\/p>","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":8160,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"[]"},"categories":[41,45],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8158","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-stories","category-kultur"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - 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